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  • September | 2013 | Careless Whispers
    an audio podcast The volume is kind of low and I m new to this so it ll get better next time Also I recorded this about 2 3 months ago Search for Recent Posts Guns Don t Kill People People Kill People Are Barbarians Responsible for the Industrial Revolution Does being authentic often imply you are a conformist General Musings Depreciation Nostalgia and Personal Freedom Recent Comments Archives December

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  • May | 2013 | Careless Whispers
    like grime basketball Vietnamese food and that is what makes me who I am I tell myself We denigrate people that are easily affected by others we call them posers wanna be s conformists sheep gullible etc We also have multiple folk stories The Emperors New Clothes and sayings that stress this point If all of your friends jumped off a cliff would you Don t do things just because they are popular or because an expert told you to do it make up your own mind What I am saying is that the price system acting as the main determinant of beauty is just a different version of this idea We should be repulsed by this concept because instead of appreciating something genuinely you are relying on the price system to guide your preferences I have some real world examples I would like you to think about that might strengthen my case The first one is the changing beauty status of gold in most of the world s cultures In premodern times it seems almost as if gold was considered universally beautiful Cultures as diverse as Egypt China and the Mayans all considered gold extremely beautiful Probably not coincidentally gold was also used in most of these cultures as a commodity currency and as a store of wealth In modern times although gold is still valuable its value in terms of beauty has dropped significantly And contrastingly an extravagant use of gold today is often a signal of bad taste I am thinking of things like Donald Trump s all gold luxury rooms gold rims gold jewelry gold chandeliers gold dining sets and the like This video is a good illustration of the idea Using a lot of gold today means that you are tacky and is a direct illustration of the point where we judge people negatively who use the price system as their only determinant of beauty It is also seen as old fashioned and from another time Another example I often think of is why for a certain period of time most American homes were entirely carpeted and now we ve almost gone in the complete opposite direction These days on the real estate market hardwood floors are demanded and when a whole house is carpeted it is a real detriment to sales There must have been a time when carpeting was a new mass market technology and the benefits it offered in terms of heating were very attractive and novel to people Reinforcing my point is the fact that carpeting was usually an additional cost I m just guessing on this point but my intuition comes from renovation shows when they rip up the carpeting in most homes they usually restore the original floors and this is considered an upgrade Because this was a new technology and was more expensive people flocked to it and in turn carpeting was considered beautiful for awhile That previous generations coveted carpeting is reflected in architecture magazines and print

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  • April | 2013 | Careless Whispers
    to work life home life and especially children Once these immigrants came to America they tried extremely hard to maintain a sense of identity and to pass on their ways to their children In a blunt way everything they did was an espousal of Asianness and how they were different from the Americans My problem with this is that eventually what became Asianness was really a value system from another generation The best evidence I have for my thesis is to just go to all these Asian countries in 2013 and see how they approach child rearing and if they behave the way Amy Chua and her ilk describe as a fundamentally Asian style of raising children Theoretically the parents from Asia should be even more Asian than the Asians that came to America But what you notice when you go to countries like Japan Singapore Hong Kong Taiwan Korea etc is that their values have changed While their values are different from Americans these modern Asian parents definitely do not hold the same values as Amy Chua Modern Japanese mothers resemble American mothers more so than the version of Asian mothers espoused by the tiger mom They enjoy their children and don t view life as the brutal struggle it might have been for many in 1970s Asia You also see this phenomenon with multiple ethnic groups Probably the closest analogy would be the way Jews identify themselves You can see this in movie stereotypes and in regular life also the way Jews talk about the differences between them and the goyim Their values are also frozen in time like the Asians from when they immigrated and when you look at modern parents in say Israel you can see that most of them don t adhere to those ideas

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  • Asian Parents | Careless Whispers
    illustration of the point where we judge people negatively who use the price system as their only determinant of beauty It is also seen as old fashioned and from another time Another example I often think of is why for a certain period of time most American homes were entirely carpeted and now we ve almost gone in the complete opposite direction These days on the real estate market hardwood floors are demanded and when a whole house is carpeted it is a real detriment to sales There must have been a time when carpeting was a new mass market technology and the benefits it offered in terms of heating were very attractive and novel to people Reinforcing my point is the fact that carpeting was usually an additional cost I m just guessing on this point but my intuition comes from renovation shows when they rip up the carpeting in most homes they usually restore the original floors and this is considered an upgrade Because this was a new technology and was more expensive people flocked to it and in turn carpeting was considered beautiful for awhile That previous generations coveted carpeting is reflected in architecture magazines and print media from the 1970s and earlier But by the 1990s the era of carpeting was declining and regardless of the heating considerations most buyers now prefer hardwood floors and consider carpeting distasteful Perhaps one of the most extreme examples of this price beauty phenomenon is the DeBeers monopoly on diamonds Although I m not the most knowledgeable on the subject I think the gist of it is that DeBeers bought up all the diamond mines in the world restricted their supply and launched one of the most successful marketing campaigns ever and convinced women across the world of its beauty and value I propose that the diamond would not mean what it does as an engagement ring if it was not expensive and it would probably be replaced by another expensive jewel if it s price were considerably lower I will admit it is hard to disentangle which came first the beauty or the price but one can easily do the thought experiment of a world where diamond prices were different and how it would affect our perceptions of its value A more concrete example of this is the price of cubic zirconia which are considerably cheaper but nearly identical in looks to the human eye There are countless other examples in history of fads where for a brief period of time an item was considered extremely beautiful because it was expensive such as Dutch tulips in the 17th century And why do I think what Asian parents make their children do is a version of this price beauty formula It doesn t seem to me a mere coincidence that it just so happens that every activity Asian parents choose for their children are activities that rich people of a previous generation took part in And it is my supposition

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  • Price and Beauty | Careless Whispers
    like grime basketball Vietnamese food and that is what makes me who I am I tell myself We denigrate people that are easily affected by others we call them posers wanna be s conformists sheep gullible etc We also have multiple folk stories The Emperors New Clothes and sayings that stress this point If all of your friends jumped off a cliff would you Don t do things just because they are popular or because an expert told you to do it make up your own mind What I am saying is that the price system acting as the main determinant of beauty is just a different version of this idea We should be repulsed by this concept because instead of appreciating something genuinely you are relying on the price system to guide your preferences I have some real world examples I would like you to think about that might strengthen my case The first one is the changing beauty status of gold in most of the world s cultures In premodern times it seems almost as if gold was considered universally beautiful Cultures as diverse as Egypt China and the Mayans all considered gold extremely beautiful Probably not coincidentally gold was also used in most of these cultures as a commodity currency and as a store of wealth In modern times although gold is still valuable its value in terms of beauty has dropped significantly And contrastingly an extravagant use of gold today is often a signal of bad taste I am thinking of things like Donald Trump s all gold luxury rooms gold rims gold jewelry gold chandeliers gold dining sets and the like This video is a good illustration of the idea Using a lot of gold today means that you are tacky and is a direct illustration of the point where we judge people negatively who use the price system as their only determinant of beauty It is also seen as old fashioned and from another time Another example I often think of is why for a certain period of time most American homes were entirely carpeted and now we ve almost gone in the complete opposite direction These days on the real estate market hardwood floors are demanded and when a whole house is carpeted it is a real detriment to sales There must have been a time when carpeting was a new mass market technology and the benefits it offered in terms of heating were very attractive and novel to people Reinforcing my point is the fact that carpeting was usually an additional cost I m just guessing on this point but my intuition comes from renovation shows when they rip up the carpeting in most homes they usually restore the original floors and this is considered an upgrade Because this was a new technology and was more expensive people flocked to it and in turn carpeting was considered beautiful for awhile That previous generations coveted carpeting is reflected in architecture magazines and print

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    point where we judge people negatively who use the price system as their only determinant of beauty It is also seen as old fashioned and from another time Another example I often think of is why for a certain period of time most American homes were entirely carpeted and now we ve almost gone in the complete opposite direction These days on the real estate market hardwood floors are demanded and when a whole house is carpeted it is a real detriment to sales There must have been a time when carpeting was a new mass market technology and the benefits it offered in terms of heating were very attractive and novel to people Reinforcing my point is the fact that carpeting was usually an additional cost I m just guessing on this point but my intuition comes from renovation shows when they rip up the carpeting in most homes they usually restore the original floors and this is considered an upgrade Because this was a new technology and was more expensive people flocked to it and in turn carpeting was considered beautiful for awhile That previous generations coveted carpeting is reflected in architecture magazines and print media from the 1970s and earlier But by the 1990s the era of carpeting was declining and regardless of the heating considerations most buyers now prefer hardwood floors and consider carpeting distasteful Perhaps one of the most extreme examples of this price beauty phenomenon is the DeBeers monopoly on diamonds Although I m not the most knowledgeable on the subject I think the gist of it is that DeBeers bought up all the diamond mines in the world restricted their supply and launched one of the most successful marketing campaigns ever and convinced women across the world of its beauty and value I propose that the diamond would not mean what it does as an engagement ring if it was not expensive and it would probably be replaced by another expensive jewel if it s price were considerably lower I will admit it is hard to disentangle which came first the beauty or the price but one can easily do the thought experiment of a world where diamond prices were different and how it would affect our perceptions of its value A more concrete example of this is the price of cubic zirconia which are considerably cheaper but nearly identical in looks to the human eye There are countless other examples in history of fads where for a brief period of time an item was considered extremely beautiful because it was expensive such as Dutch tulips in the 17th century And why do I think what Asian parents make their children do is a version of this price beauty formula It doesn t seem to me a mere coincidence that it just so happens that every activity Asian parents choose for their children are activities that rich people of a previous generation took part in And it is my supposition given the rest

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  • Asian parents and the things they make their kids do: Why pianos lessons aren’t so different from gold bathtubs | Careless Whispers
    are easily affected by others we call them posers wanna be s conformists sheep gullible etc We also have multiple folk stories The Emperors New Clothes and sayings that stress this point If all of your friends jumped off a cliff would you Don t do things just because they are popular or because an expert told you to do it make up your own mind What I am saying is that the price system acting as the main determinant of beauty is just a different version of this idea We should be repulsed by this concept because instead of appreciating something genuinely you are relying on the price system to guide your preferences I have some real world examples I would like you to think about that might strengthen my case The first one is the changing beauty status of gold in most of the world s cultures In premodern times it seems almost as if gold was considered universally beautiful Cultures as diverse as Egypt China and the Mayans all considered gold extremely beautiful Probably not coincidentally gold was also used in most of these cultures as a commodity currency and as a store of wealth In modern times although gold is still valuable its value in terms of beauty has dropped significantly And contrastingly an extravagant use of gold today is often a signal of bad taste I am thinking of things like Donald Trump s all gold luxury rooms gold rims gold jewelry gold chandeliers gold dining sets and the like This video is a good illustration of the idea Using a lot of gold today means that you are tacky and is a direct illustration of the point where we judge people negatively who use the price system as their only determinant of beauty It is also seen as old fashioned and from another time Another example I often think of is why for a certain period of time most American homes were entirely carpeted and now we ve almost gone in the complete opposite direction These days on the real estate market hardwood floors are demanded and when a whole house is carpeted it is a real detriment to sales There must have been a time when carpeting was a new mass market technology and the benefits it offered in terms of heating were very attractive and novel to people Reinforcing my point is the fact that carpeting was usually an additional cost I m just guessing on this point but my intuition comes from renovation shows when they rip up the carpeting in most homes they usually restore the original floors and this is considered an upgrade Because this was a new technology and was more expensive people flocked to it and in turn carpeting was considered beautiful for awhile That previous generations coveted carpeting is reflected in architecture magazines and print media from the 1970s and earlier But by the 1990s the era of carpeting was declining and regardless of the heating

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