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  • New Stedman History pages
    old site that still have value I will be shutting the old site down and moving the stedmanfamily org domain to this site Thanks john Posted by John Lisle at 1 32 am One Response to New Stedman History pages Murray Gellatly says 22 December 2014 at 11 14 am I wonder if you know anything about a Herrn Ad Welti Stedman who resided at Weissenbuhlweg 17 Berne Switzerland in 1912 I am asking as I have a postcard addressed to him from Tangier Morocco in April 1912 which seems to be a business related card Regards Murray Gellatly Reply Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your Comment You may use these HTML tags and attributes a href title abbr title acronym title b blockquote cite cite code del datetime em i q cite s strike strong Name required E mail required URI Mick Jagger is not a Stedman Descendant Updates for July 2012 Software Genealogies and Lilly Tennessee Steadman The Stedman Family Organization through John B Lisle is the Registrant with the Guild of One Name Studies London for the Stedman Surnames Genealogy People Search Last Name First Name Advanced Search Search Articles and Pages Pages About Family Trees Stedman

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  • Mick Jagger is not a Stedman Descendant!
    May 2000 near London Her death registration index gives her birth date Alfred Henry Scutts 1879 1963 s o Alfred Charles Scutts and Mary Louisa Gardiner married Gertrude Jessie Archer in Kent in 1901 They had 4 sons before departing for Australia in July 1912 arriving Sydney in September 1912 One of the sons Percy died in 1936 in Sydney Percy s death notice in a Sydney newspaper made note that Alfred and Gertrude must have been estranged because she was back living in Kent Eva married in Kent in 1940 and Gertrude and the other three sons died in Kent between 1964 and 2004 Gertrude Jessie Archer Scutts 1879 1964 was the last child of John Archer 1836 1882 and Ensley Bailey 1841 1907 Gertrude s oldest sister was Mary Ann Ensley Archer 1860 1923 who married Harry Steadman Pearson 1858 1917 Their youngest daughter Florence Mary Ann Ensley Pearson 1889 1951 did not marry Alfred Scutts but married Ernest E Page in 1917 So you know how the Stedman connection comes in Harry Steadman Pearson is a grandson of Capt James Stedman and Mary Catherine Edgecombe and great grandson of Phillip Stedman of Sevenoaks Kent and Susannah Tarbut In laying this correction out I may have made the discovery process seem simple It wasn t I first needed to work up Alfred Scutts genealogy in England It was my good fortune that Alfred Scutts is not a common name I also had to review all of the details I had for Florence s family including finding people in the 1911 census From this I discovered that Florence had married in 1917 in England so I was fairly certain she had not gone to Australia I needed to find when Alfred went to Australia and what was going on with his family there I had to prove that Gertrude Jessie Archer and Mary Ann Ensley Archer were related They were born so far apart that Mary Ann was married about the time Gertrude was born Then I had two great contacts in Australia locate the birth registration for Eva 1913 NSW births are not yet released on the web site but are available from some old CDs and other details of the family in Australia including evidence that at least part of the family had returned to England before Eva was married I stress when I am teaching genealogy techniques to find the names of spouse parents All too often when understanding a spouse s family you will learn about hidden cousins This example also teaches that family legends might have a grain of truth in them and when researching family legends it is important both to find the correct genealogy and to find out what might be the basis for the legend Let me give a shout out to Warwick Anderson and John Graham in Australia and Nick Stedman David Stedman and Carl Russ in the UK for their help with this analysis And help with other issues

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  • Sir Michael Phillip "Mick" Jagger: Stedman Family Genealogies
    individual is linked to this note Details withheld Person ID I59 Stedman Families of the United Kingdom Last Modified 10 Jun 2012 Father Basil Fanshawe Joe Jagger b 13 Apr 1913 Maldon RD Essex England UK d 11 Nov 2006 Kingston upon Thames Surrey England UK Age 93 years Mother Eva Mary Ensley Scutts b 6 Apr 1913 Marrickville New South Wales Australia d 18 May 2000 Wimbledon Surrey England

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  • Eva Mary Ensley Scutts b. 6 Apr 1913 Marrickville, ____, New South Wales, Australia d. 18 May 2000 Wimbledon, Surrey, England, UK: Stedman Family Genealogies
    a visit to his old school in Dartford Kent to open a 2 5m community arts centre The couple lived close to Mick s mansion in Richmond south west London and would have celebrated 60 years of marriage in December Eva followed her son s career closely keeping an extensive scrapbook of pictures and cuttings and once reprimanded Stones bassist Bill Wyman for making an incorrect statement in a book She was said to have been the dominant force in the Jagger household and was held in high regard by Mick She once said of him in an interview People are always asking what it s like to have a famous son The answer is simple to me he s just a son I don t think of him as a star Died 18 May 2000 Wimbledon Surrey England UK Obituary 27 May 2000 London Middlesex England UK BBC News online news bbc co uk 1 low uk 765907 stm BBC News Online Saturday 27 May 2000 00 04 GMT 01 04 UK Jagger bids farewell to mother Friends and family of Mick Jagger s mother Eva have paid their last respects at her funeral The Rolling Stones star performed a gospel song Will The Circle Be Unbroken with his brother Chris at the service also attended by their father Joe Stones guitarist Keith Richards flew in from the US especially for the ceremony which he attended alongside drummer Charlie Watts and guitarist Ronnie Wood at St Andrew s Church in Ham Surrey Mrs Jagger 87 died last Thursday after spending a month in Parkside Hospital Wimbledon with a heart condition Mick Jagger was accompanied by his former partner model Jerry Hall and the couple s four children Also among the 200 mourners were his daughter Jade Jagger and former wife Bianca No 1 Fan Chris and his sons were pallbearers for Mrs Jagger s coffin Mick flew into the UK last week as soon as he heard of his mother s death breaking off meetings at the Cannes Film Festival to comfort his 88 year old father Mrs Jagger was one of her son s biggest fans and had an encyclopaedic knowledge of the band s career She was last seen in public in March attending the opening of a 2 25m arts centre at Dartford Grammar Kent which was named after Mick Person ID I61 Stedman Families of the United Kingdom Last Modified 22 Jul 2015 Father Alfred Henry Scutts b Between 1 Apr 1879 and 30 Jun 1879 Northfleet Kent England UK d 1963 Sydney New South Wales Australia Age 83 years Mother Gertrude Jessie Archer b Between 1 Oct 1879 and 31 Dec 1879 Dartford Kent England UK d Between 1 Jul 1964 and 30 Sep 1964 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 84 years Married Between 1 Oct 1901 and 31 Dec 1901 Gravesend RD Kent England UK Marriage Registration Between 1 Oct 1901 and 31 Dec 1901 Gravesend RD Kent England UK Vol 2a

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  • Alfred Henry Scutts b. Between 1 Apr 1879 and 30 Jun 1879 Northfleet, Kent, England, UK d. 1963 Sydney, ____, New South Wales, Australia: Stedman Family Genealogies
    Henry Scutts Head 31 Married Boat Builder Northfleet Kent Gertrude Jessie Wife 30 Married 8 4 4 Dartford Cyril Alfred Son 9 Greenhithe Percy Son 7 Kingston Surrey Ethric Son 5 Horace Son 3 Immigration 10 Sep 1912 Sydney New South Wales Australia New South Wales Australia Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists 1826 1922 Vessel Name Rangatira Departure Port London Departure Date calculated as 16 July 1912 based on 56 day trip Arrival Port Sydney New South Wales Arrival Date 10 Sep 1912 Passengers 389 Mr Alf Scutts 32 Farmer Mrs 30 Wife Cyril 10 Child Percy 8 Esther 6 Horace 4 Rangatira Ship Passenger List Death Registration 1963 Sydney New South Wales Australia 9493 Alfred Henry Scutts son of Alfred Charles and Mary Louisa died Died 1963 Sydney New South Wales Australia Warwick Anderson June 2012 Alfred Henry died in 1963 in Sydney Alfred appears to have lived at Bondi as suburb of Sydney until his retirement about 1950 after this time and up until his death he lived with his daughter in law Rose Lilian Scutts nee Manley at Lidcombe another Sydney suburb Rose Scutts was the wife of Percy Arthur Charles Scutts they were married in 1929 Percy died in 1936 in Sydney It would appear that at the time of Percy and Rose s marriage Alfred was already estranged from his wife Gertrude as the marriage announcement in the Sydney Morning Herald see attached file indicates that Gertrude is living in Kent Percy and Rose had three children Margaret Eva Rosemary and Peter Alfred Person ID I62 Stedman Families of the United Kingdom Last Modified 14 Jun 2012 Father Alfred Charles Scutts b Between 1 Apr 1854 and 30 Jun 1854 North Aylesford RD Kent England UK d Between 1 Oct 1926 and 31 Dec 1926 West Ham RD Essex England UK Age 72 years Mother Mary Louisa Gardiner b Abt 1857 Strand Middlesex England UK d Between 1 Oct 1940 and 31 Dec 1940 Essex South Western RD Essex England UK Age 83 years Married Between 1 Jul 1876 and 30 Sep 1876 North Aylesford RD Kent England UK Marriage Registration Between 1 Jul 1876 and 30 Sep 1876 North Aylesford RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 1165 Alfred Charles Scutts and Mary Louisa Gardiner wer married Family ID F4413 Group Sheet Family Gertrude Jessie Archer b Between 1 Oct 1879 and 31 Dec 1879 Dartford Kent England UK d Between 1 Jul 1964 and 30 Sep 1964 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 84 years Married Between 1 Oct 1901 and 31 Dec 1901 Gravesend RD Kent England UK Type Separated Marriage Registration Between 1 Oct 1901 and 31 Dec 1901 Gravesend RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 1165 Alfred Henry Scutts and Gertrude Jessie Archer were married Separation Bef 1929 Australia At the time of their son Percy s death in 1936 Gertrude was living back in Kent where their daughter Eva was married 1940 However as son Cyril was married in

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  • Gertrude Jessie Archer b. Between 1 Oct 1879 and 31 Dec 1879 Dartford, Kent, England, UK d. Between 1 Jul 1964 and 30 Sep 1964 Dartford RD, Kent, England, UK: Stedman Family Genealogies
    Abt 1836 Old Buckenham Norfolk England UK d Between 1 Jul 1882 and 30 Sep 1882 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 46 years Mother Ensley Bailey b Between 1 Jan 1841 and 31 Mar 1841 Hadlow Kent England UK d Between 1 Jan 1907 and 31 Mar 1907 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 65 years Married Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Malling Kent England UK Marriage Registration Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Malling RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 575 John Archer and Ensley Bailey were married Family ID F342 Group Sheet Family Alfred Henry Scutts b Between 1 Apr 1879 and 30 Jun 1879 Northfleet Kent England UK d 1963 Sydney New South Wales Australia Age 83 years Married Between 1 Oct 1901 and 31 Dec 1901 Gravesend RD Kent England UK Type Separated Marriage Registration Between 1 Oct 1901 and 31 Dec 1901 Gravesend RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 1165 Alfred Henry Scutts and Gertrude Jessie Archer were married Separation Bef 1929 Australia At the time of their son Percy s death in 1936 Gertrude was living back in Kent where their daughter Eva was married 1940 However as son Cyril was married in Dartford in 1929 it is expected that she returned to England with most of her children before 1929 I have no evidence that either re married Marriage Status Separated Children 1 Cyril Alfred Scutts b Between 1 Jan 1902 and 31 Mar 1902 Greenhithe Kent England UK d Between 1 Jul 1968 and 30 Sep 1968 Thanet RD Kent England UK Age 66 years 2 Percy Arthur Charles Scutts b Between 1 Jan 1904 and 31 Mar 1904 Kingston upon Thames Surrey England UK d 7 Mar 1936 Sydney New South Wales Australia

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  • John Archer b. Abt 1836 Old Buckenham, Norfolk, England, UK d. Between 1 Jul 1882 and 30 Sep 1882 Dartford RD, Kent, England, UK: Stedman Family Genealogies
    Lillian Dau 15 Scholar Burham Thomas Son 13 Factory Boy Dartford Charles Son 11 Scholar Sarah Dau 9 Alice Dau 6 George Son 3 Gertrude Dau 1 Death Registration Between 1 Jul 1882 and 30 Sep 1882 Dartford RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 232 John Archer age 46 died Died Between 1 Jul 1882 and 30 Sep 1882 Dartford RD Kent England UK Person ID I1161 Stedman Families of the United Kingdom Last Modified 10 Jun 2012 Family Ensley Bailey b Between 1 Jan 1841 and 31 Mar 1841 Hadlow Kent England UK d Between 1 Jan 1907 and 31 Mar 1907 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 65 years Married Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Malling Kent England UK Marriage Registration Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Malling RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 575 John Archer and Ensley Bailey were married Children 1 Mary Ann Ensley Archer b Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Burham Kent England UK d Between 1 Jan 1923 and 31 Mar 1923 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 62 years 2 Gertrude Jessie Archer b Between 1 Oct 1879 and 31 Dec 1879

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  • Ensley Bailey b. Between 1 Jan 1841 and 31 Mar 1841 Hadlow, Kent, England, UK d. Between 1 Jan 1907 and 31 Mar 1907 Dartford RD, Kent, England, UK: Stedman Family Genealogies
    Mar 1907 Dartford RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 461 Ensley Archer age 67 died Died Between 1 Jan 1907 and 31 Mar 1907 Dartford RD Kent England UK Person ID I1162 Stedman Families of the United Kingdom Last Modified 10 Jun 2012 Family John Archer b Abt 1836 Old Buckenham Norfolk England UK d Between 1 Jul 1882 and 30 Sep 1882 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 46 years Married Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Malling Kent England UK Marriage Registration Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Malling RD Kent England UK Vol 2a p 575 John Archer and Ensley Bailey were married Children 1 Mary Ann Ensley Archer b Between 1 Apr 1860 and 30 Jun 1860 Burham Kent England UK d Between 1 Jan 1923 and 31 Mar 1923 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 62 years 2 Gertrude Jessie Archer b Between 1 Oct 1879 and 31 Dec 1879 Dartford Kent England UK d Between 1 Jul 1964 and 30 Sep 1964 Dartford RD Kent England UK Age 84 years Last Modified 10 Jun 2012 Family ID F342 Group Sheet Event Map Born Between 1 Jan 1841 and 31

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